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What is the thing about exponentials? - Kenny Rowe

December 12, 2022 · 1h 1m

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About this episode

Kenny Rowe is the founder of the Dalten Collective (~sicdev-pilnup), in a previous life he was on the founding team of MakerDAO

  1. What is the dalten collective?
    1. Collectively own an urbit start together
  2. What is a node?
  3. What is peer discovery?
  4. What is governance when it comes to Urbit?
  5. What can you do with a star on Urbit?
  6. What is the relationship between Urbit and DAOs?
  7. How do groups do sense-making? What is better for sense-making: an individual or the collective?
  8. What are the three values for the dalten collective?
  9. How many people are in the dalten collective?
  10. What is Qurtus when it comes to the dalten collective?
  11. What are the differences between software development in Urbit vs the rest of the ecosystem?
    1. Dev ops is easier
    2. There is a learning curve
    3. Runes and ASQII characters are important
  12. What is the importance of communication for project management?
  13. When do we get to the magical point of really easy software development?
  14. What does it mean to be a functional programming language?
  15. What is the highest scale has Urbit got to?
    1. Ubit network explorer
    2. Low 10,0000s
  16. What is the thing about exponentials?
  17. Does anyone at the FED have any idea of what MakerDAO is?
  18. What is the relationship between finance and actualization?
  19. Is MakerDAO a eurodollar system?
  20. Is Urbit out of the womb yet?
  21. What was your first memory of discovering the internet?
  22. What is the difference between a functional and performative server?
  23. What was the history of computing in the 40s?
  24. What is computation?
  25. How do you bootstrap a personal server?
    1. What do you learn by building a personal server that gives you an idea of what you can do?
  26. Are we already in the feudal system when it comes to Facebook owning all our individual data?
  27. How do identity politics make the world really clear?
  28. What are the tools you need for sense-making?
  29. Why do bitcoin maxis immediately think that Urbit is a blockchain when you try to bring it up?
  30. How do smart contracts fit into urbit? What is the synthesis between smart contracts and urbit?
  31. Where does sense-making within small groups fit into the patchwork age (PaulPublisher on Twitter)?
  32. Where do loners fit into sense-making?
  33. What is the relationship between the internet archives and urbit?
  34. How does urbit prevent shadow updates from centralized media?
  35. Will urbit absorb the legacy internet?
  36. What does it mean to have a digital CPU?
  37. What do you think happens to Amazon cloud in the urbit land?
  38. Cable television is a good idea of decentralization
  39. How does Moore’s law extrapolate into other areas outside of transistors?
  40. What is a functional definition of computation?
  41. Why did computers take over the world in 1940s?
  42. What is the relationship between computers and war?
  43. What is a babbage machine?
  44. Why is 0 and 1 is the easiest way to do computation?
Episode transcript
Stewart Alsop III00:00

Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. This podcast is for you. If you have an insane drive to find the truth of things, it's not the good answers that we seek, but the good questions. I interview a range of different guests from many different fields, all with the intention to uncover the simple truths that are hidden in plain sight. Most people don't want to go there. I go there, my guests go there, and you benefit. Please let me know if you enjoy these episodes and as always, subscribe on itunes, Spotify, or wherever you listen to the podcasts. Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. My guest today is Kenny Rowe. He is the founder of the Dalton Collective on Urbit. And if you want to find him on Urbit, you can go find him on sickdev. Pillnup S I C D E F midscore P I L N U P He's also part of the founding team of MakerDAO. Welcome to the show, Kenny.

Kenny Rowe00:57

Thank you.

Stewart Alsop III00:59

How's your day going today? Pretty good, yeah. So what is the Dalton Collective?

Kenny Rowe01:07

The Dalton Collective is a group of folks that got together a couple of years ago, and the first thing we did was we wanted to collectively own an orbit star together. And just for folks that aren't familiar in the Urbit ecosystem, there are sort of three types of nodes, orbital assets. There's something called the Galaxy, which is similar to like a DNS root node on the existing Internet that also. That helps with peer discovery, but also has. Galaxies have governance responsibilities. Then one step higher than that is a star, which also helps with peer discovery, doesn't have any governance aspects to it. And then the one above that is something called a planet. And a planet is like an individual identity. And so planets are relatively easy to come by. They cost between 10 and $20, depending on the market price at any given time. Some are more rare, and maybe those go for more, but they're fairly easy to come by. However, stars are a bit more expensive because they hold within them 65,000 of these planet identities that can be either sold or used in some other way. And so from the early beginnings, there's this sort of notion in that these identities, these stars, would either be businesses of some kind or some other kind of group activity. And so in 2019, I just, I thought, you know, I've got one of these things, I'm not doing anything with it, might as well form a group around it to such that we could collectively own it and figure out what these things might be good for. And so that happened back in 2019. And as, as the group Evolved. Really what we were interested in pursuing was something more like sense making as a group. Right. And so it's not a business. It didn't, it didn't become anything that we're trying to like make something and ship it, that kind of thing. Really it's more of a social group. It's actually kind of more similar to sort of traditional, like Elks Clubs or other social groups where the reason for coming together is primarily like social. So every week we get together, we try to figure out as best as we can, sort of what's going on in the world around us, what do people think about, like whatever topics the group is interested in, that sort of thing. And we've solidified around three core values for the group. First being that fellowship, that getting together on a weekly basis and like sharing of the minds type of thing. But we also want to do that sustainably. So that does mean we are trying to acquire resources or start things that do have income, that sort of a thing. And we'd want to do all of that as sort of in a way that is the most sovereign as possible. So sovereignty is our third core value, both as individuals and as a group. And so the way that's worked out over time is we have these spin out groups that, that do try to do specific things in the world like a business or some kind of entity. And right now the one that's the most successful is a group called Cordis and, and they do software development on URBIT specifically. And so they also help us with the rest of the group build tools for our group. So one of the tools that they built, for example, was a little way to help keep attendance for meetings, that kind of thing, which is kind of like an nft, but it's not like an, it's not an asset because it's not registered on any blockchain or anything like that. So that's kind of the way we've kind of formed and what we're about. And we've been doing this for the last, let's say since late 2019.

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