What is the substrate of reality? Geoffrey Woo - CEO of H.V.M.N

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Hi, my name is Stuart Allsop and this is my podcast, Crazy Wisdom, where I interview creative people about how they work with and manage the stress that is inherent in creative work. What I've realized over the past 10 years of my research is that anybody who is creating something of value that is significantly different from what has come before is considered crazy. Most of us have a fear, an ingrained fear of going crazy. So what I'm saying is grab onto that fear, realize that it's there, and just go with it. Because the problems we're going to be facing over the next 20 years require crazy people in order to solve them.

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Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. My guest is Jeffrey Woo. He is the CEO and co founder of hvmn. Really excited to have you on the show today.

Thanks for having me on.

So you've been doing a podcast for a while now too, right? What, what is the biggest thing that you've learned from doing your podcast?

Yeah, I guess we've been fellow co hosts or a host of podcasts over the last few years. I think a couple things, just one, very tactically, I think I've become a much better extemporaneous speaker because you're just having conversations with other smart people for 60, 90 minutes a couple times a week. You're just getting a lot of reps and talking to people. So I appreciate just the tactical verbal acuity and fluidity that you gain from just having to record yourself and listen to yourself. But I mean, I think probably the more interesting thing I've learned through having a podcast is just having long form conversations with other smart people. I feel like, I think that's partly the reason why the podcast format has exploded. It just people don't really have 60, 90 minute long conversations about philosophy, about health, about all these interesting concepts. I think for better or for worse, today's discourse is pretty quick. It needs to be under five minutes. Got to be snappy. People want to see the Instagram updates or the Twitter posts. So being able to just have interesting, fun, deep conversations with other smart people for an hour or two hours on a variety of topics has been really educational, just from a personal level. And hopefully I think with your Crazy Wisdom podcast as well as the HVMN podcast, we're able to share some of those conversations with the broader community, the broader world. I mean, just throwing it back to you. I mean, what have you learned from running Crazy Wisdom Podcast?