How does following interdisciplinary interests make you a better CEO? - Martin Permin (CEO of Pelion)

In sports medicine, we talk of this thing called load management, which is effectively sort of the. The concept that there's a relationship between load and injury risk, but also a relationship between load and adaption, meaning sort of improvement, performance improvements. And at some margin there's a trade off between what's your injury risk and what's the adaption that you're looking to get. And I think that's true in everything. Surely you can do something that's a lot less stressful than trying to build a very valuable company. You also will not get the results that the stress of doing that sort of bring with them. Worth noting here, of course, that that isn't for everyone and that certainly people have. Silicon Valley is littered with, or is paved with the broken dreams of people doing exactly what we're trying to.

Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom podcast. Today my guest was Martin Perman, the CEO of Pelion. I'll let him explain more about what they do. It's very interesting and it was really great to talk with Martin today. I love the interdisciplinary nature of what we're talking about. And just to remind everybody, I do try to find experts on the show, but I also value the answers of non experts. And Martin is clear when he's not an expert in something, he says that and I really appreciate that. And I think you should look for other people who do that because that's a sign that somebody is humble. And so I look for experts. But sometimes I really value the answers of non experts. And if you want to understand why I think that way, go ahead and read the book Range by David Epstein. To be interdisciplinary, you have to be humble because you often find yourselves in places where you have no idea what's going on and you're constantly a beginner and that's a really valuable place to be. And so I. And that's. That's if somebody's willing to guess, that means that they're willing to be wrong. And the only way that you can really improve your knowledge is to make it explicit and then make it able to be to fail. And so I really appreciate that Martin does that here. I try to do that as well, and I hope all of you as well do as well. So if you enjoy this podcast, please find us on itunes, Spotify or Stitcher or whatever place that you normally listen to podcasts and go ahead and subscribe. And if you really like it, I'd really appreciate giving a review on itunes. It would mean a lot to me. And as always, I'm on Twitter ewartalsopiii youi can DM me. My DMs are open. Please send me your thoughts on this episode or any of the other episodes I published. Have a great day.