Crazy Wisdom
How are plant psychedelics different from synthesized psychedelics? - Isabelle Kupka
- Consciousness & Philosophy
- Psychedelics & Inner Frontiers
- psychology
- spirituality
- brazil
- plants
- mushrooms
- psychedelics
- ayahuasca
- psilocybin
About this episode
In this episode, Isabelle and I discuss psychedelics, the differences between organic and synthetic psychedelics, the differences in how drugs are viewed in Brazil as opposed to the United States, psychology, the history of psychedelics, the death of God in the West, and the resultant coping mechanisms, her experience with Ayahuasca, and much more. Enjoy.
(1:40-5:08) Unexpected differences between the laws governing drug and psychedelic use in the U.S. and in Brazil, and how funding is granted for the study of psychedelics in the U.S. and in Brazil. The intriguing methods Brazilian academics use in their study of psychedelics.
(5:08-9:03) Should psychology be treated as an objective science? Some historical examples of what has happened when subjective metrics become taken for objective measures. Are there universalities in human behavior? Or is psychology a totally subjective endeavor?
(9:18-15:39) The death of God in the west; the new wave of spirituality rising; the role psychedelics have to play in this rise; the danger inherent in throwing the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to rejecting the nihilism of western scientific rationality; are psychedelic ceremonies really ancient? How did humans discover psychedelics? How have psychedelics been used across history? Is there a difference in the experience between trips on organic psychedelics (e.g., psilocybin, iboga) and trips on artificial psychedelics (LSD)?
(18:50-21:21) Isabelle describes her experience with ayahuasca
(23:02- 25:50) Are plants sentient? Are they agents? Is it possible that plants like psilocybin and the ingredients found in ayahuasca may have motivations of their own that are in conflict with the motivations human beings have for themselves? If they are sentient, can we really say they’re our friends? Or is it the other way around? Is civilization killing us and plants trying to rescue us?
(29:03-33:08) Why the switch, by many Westerners, to the teachings of eastern philosophies may not be such a good idea and why Western society may need to come up with its own answers to life’s existential questions.
(50:09) An interesting observation on the effects of cold on cognitive ability.
Episode transcript
Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. So you might have noticed that the world has gone a little bit insane. And to get through this in a way that is sustainable and maybe even joyous, we are going to have to find some crazy wisdom. Which is why I named the podcast Crazy Wisdom. And I try to find guests who are both contrarian and right, as well as people who can help us to understand how we can get through this period of both experience acceleration as technology accelerates, and maybe even a little bit of darkness, as well as some of you may have been noticing, really crazy stuff is happening right now. So my goal with this show is to empower you with crazy wisdom and give you the tools to figure out how to do it on yourself, because we don't can't rely on too much these days. So with that being said, if you like what I'm offering with this show, I'm on Twitter to Stuart Alsop. I I, I. My DMs are open. I'd love to hear from you about how this show has affected you. Thanks. Have a great day. Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. I've got Isabel Kupka here in Curitiba, Brazil. We've already recorded one podcast, but that podcast was not recorded in the right way, so it's gone forever. Although it was an excellent podcast, excellent episode, and I wanted to come back and interview Isabelle. Isabelle is a student of psychology at University of Pernambuco. Pernambuco In Recife.
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