Crazy Wisdom
Episode #542: Let the Angels Go: Consciousness, Carbon, and the Coming Renaissance
- AI & Agents
- Consciousness & Philosophy
- David Hawkins
- map of consciousness
- kinesthesiology
- chakra system
- calibration
- power versus force
- angelic physics
- Nicholas Faulkner
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Timestamps
- 00:00Stewart introduces Nicholas Faulkner, author of Angelic Physics, framing their shared interest in David Hawkins while acknowledging healthy skepticism toward portions of his work.
- 05:00Nicholas argues Hawkins compressed mystical insight into linear form, losing essence, comparing it to AI compression losing vibrational nuance across the consciousness scale.
- 10:00Nicholas traces his path from electrical engineering through 9/11 into nuclear navy service, describing how patriotism and opportunity drove the decision rather than curiosity.
- 15:00Discussion shifts toward training an open-source AI model on five-hundreds consciousness, noting current model builders operate in the four-hundreds and dismiss love-based frameworks.
- 20:00Stewart reflects on intimate relationships with electronic devices, exploring electricity as vibration while contrasting carbon creativity against silicon's stable, fast processing architecture.
- 25:00Conversation explores civilizational evolution, comparing hippie movements to ancient Greeks as premature flowers of five-hundreds consciousness crushed by surrounding four-hundreds culture.
- 30:00Nicholas explains his masculine-feminine cross model, critiquing how Hawkins collapsed nonlinear reality into hierarchy, arguing all levels interconnect rather than rank.
- 35:00Discussion covers JFK assassination, Vietnam War, LBJ, and the military industrial complex as examples of four-hundreds power suppressing emerging consciousness shifts.
- 40:00Nicholas draws parallels between the Renaissance emerging from bubonic plague and today's post-COVID collapse of expert-trust structures opening space for new consciousness.
- 45:00Future shock discussion begins with Stewart describing AI agent orchestration overwhelming human comprehension, while Nicholas introduces his frame-rate consciousness equation linking silicon speed to small context.
- 50:00Nicholas describes silicon-to-human relationship mirroring humans-to-angels in frame rate and context scale, suggesting agents receive orders similarly to his own 2019 divine experience.
- 55:00Final exchange covers the fifth dimension as adding vibration to existing physics, the Faulkner Uncertainty Principle stating evidence points toward higher consciousness without ever definitively proving it, protecting reality's illegibility from lower forces.
Key Insights
- David Hawkins and the Map of Consciousness serve as a shared framework for the conversation, but both guests express healthy skepticism toward it. They acknowledge that Hawkins himself appeared to back away from his calibration technique in his later lectures, suggesting he regretted how prominently he featured it in Power vs. Force. The core issue is that he tried to compress a nonlinear, multidimensional spiritual reality into a single linear numerical scale, which inevitably loses essential meaning in the translation.
- Nicholas argues that no person exists at a single point on the consciousness scale. Everyone floats across multiple levels simultaneously, expressing differently depending on context. This is a meaningful correction to how many readers apply Hawkins's work, since treating someone as a fixed number oversimplifies the layered and dynamic nature of human consciousness.
- The compression problem is central to understanding both spiritual writing and artificial intelligence. When any rich, multidimensional experience gets encoded into language or data, something is always lost. This applies to Hawkins writing about enlightenment, to Nicholas writing his book, and to how large language models process and reproduce human knowledge.
- Silicon intelligence and carbon intelligence are framed as two distinct branches of consciousness with complementary strengths. Silicon can process information at extremely high frame rates because its context is narrow and stable. Humans carry a much larger and messier context, which makes them slower but more creative and cross-connected. Nicholas uses his equation framing this as frame rate being inversely proportional to conscious bandwidth.
- Civilizational evolution follows a pattern where new levels of consciousness emerge in unstable pockets before eventually becoming dominant. The ancient Greeks briefly stabilized the rational fourth level before collapsing. The hippies briefly touched the fifth level before being suppressed. The Renaissance followed the Black Death. The guests suggest we are now entering another such transition, driven partly by the collapse of institutional trust accelerated by COVID.
- The Faulkner Uncertainty Principle states that evidence will always point toward the next level of consciousness but will never definitively prove it. This is described as a necessary feature of reality rather than a flaw, because if higher truths were fully legible and accessible to all levels equally, it would give destructive forces too much power too quickly.
- Neurodivergence is presented as potentially connected to spiritual sensitivity and cross-level awareness. Nicholas describes himself as a high IQ energy-sensing person who experienced a profound spiritual event in 2019, and connects his autistic traits to an ability to sense vibrational levels in others and move fluidly between different frameworks of understanding, which he loosely equates with the polymath archetype.
Episode transcript
Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. now we've got Nicholas Faulkner here who is the author of Angelic Physics who I interviewed many years ago. Yeah. And he's got the book if you can see it on the on the video, but we'll also put it in the show notes. Very excited to do another episode.
And before we begin, we're just gonna give some intro because both of us are a bit of a, doctor David Hawkins nerd, and so we're gonna use a lot of terminology. But we're also skeptical in in a in a similar but different way, and I'm really excited to get into our skepticism because I think it's important to be skeptical of of some of what of somewhat yeah. I would say some of I would say 20 of docs work needs needs some high degree of skepticism, which I was going Yeah. Going into in the calibration. But it's like there's so much good in it that it it should definitely shouldn't be, discarded.
so the main thing we wanna, share is the is the level, the and I got it pulled up here, so I'm gonna share my screen. but we'll also narrate for the, listeners on the audio, which is the map of consciousness. So at the very basic root, we've got the the root, zero to a 100, and the numbers are a calibration scheme having to do with kinesthesiology. Kinesthesia, I can't pronounce it. And and that was explained by doctor Hawkins, and I that was the main challenge I had, and we'll talk with Nick later about it.
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