Conversation With Mark Lutter

So Rwanda and Ethiopia, for example, which are basically African tigers, now doing like 8% growth a year. I'm not sure there's a huge value out for charter cities there. They're already growing pretty fast. Maybe there is. I haven't looked into in depth, but the sort of ideal country for a charter city is probably like 1 to 5,000 per capita GDP if you're below 1,000. It's too chaotic to do anything with a reasonably stable government that is urbanizing rapidly. And if you fall into those criteria, then like, right, 3% growth per year, because the charter city can probably boost that up to like 6%.

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Today I interviewed Mark Lutter, the executive director of the nonprofit InnovativeGovernance.org they are a think tank dedicated to improving governance worldwide, and they believe that technological innovation and shifting cultural norms are creating the opportunity for new forms of governance which could create the conditions for human flourishing. Their goal is to conduct research and outreach which can be used to better understand these changes and create the intellectual, moral and policy framework to ensure that the new forms of governance advance human flourishing to the greatest extent possible. Learned a lot about charter cities on this podcast, particularly about how urban environments are a source of great stress for people, but they are the way of the future as well. We're not moving back to the countryside anytime soon. We're moving to cities. So the more we can really put some intention and thought into how we build these cities and how those cities can support all actors in those cities,