Andreas Klinger - What is the future of remote work?

I strongly believe that almost every digital knowledge worker is already working remote. They are doing emails on their way to work. They are working Fridays from a coffee shop. You know, they are maybe doing. Joining conference calls while they're on a business trip. You know, so everybody is already working remote. The only question is, like, how much and how enabled, right? So I strongly believe that in, let's say the next five years, we'll just stop calling it remote work and just call it work. We'll just fucking call it work. Done.

Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom podcast. Today I interviewed Andreas Klinger. He is the head of remote at Angellist, former CTO at Product Hunt, and extremely intelligent and very knowledgeable about the current trend towards remote work. And when I make that statement, it's based on our interview, which the most insightful thing Andreas gave me in this interview was that in 10 years, we won't be calling it remote work, we'll be calling it work. Because there is nothing unless you're doing hardware, unless you're doing something that really physically requires your teammates to be in the same spot, you really don't need to be in the same place. And the main thing that I've realized in my journey is that most of my coaching is now done remotely. So not only can your work be done remotely, but your personal life can also be done remotely. Now, you might have this inclination, oh, no, no, no, that can't happen to me. I would argue that that is a condition that you have placed on your own social relationships. And the more the unconditional you can become, the more joy you will experience in all things. And so working, it doesn't really matter whether I'm in front of somebody, as long as I can be in that communication, in that connection, in that space where we're both sharing what's real for us. It can happen all over the world. And I've seen it in my life, like, this really happens. And it's basically a product of me getting used to it. If you were to ask me 10 to 20 years ago, like, stuart, will you ever be able to do your therapy online? I would have said, no effing way. There's no way that could have happened. Like, I hated talking on the phone. I hated these electronic form of communications. I kind of feel like the Chinese saying that pictures take your soul. I felt that, that anxiety. And now, of course, I'm doing a podcast, so I wonder what the microphone's