Allen Saakyan - Host of Simulation Series

That's why psychedelic psychotherapy works really well. They build a really long relationship with the patient as the therapist, and then you add the psychedelics, which helps them integrate the trauma peacefully into their life.

Welcome to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast. Today is a special episode that I have with my good friend Alan Sakian from the Simulation series. He's got another podcast mostly on YouTube, which you can find by finding Simulation series.

He's got a really interesting podcast and this is a special episode because we

basically just did a dual interview. So I was interviewing him and then he was interviewing me and we both brought the themes of both of our shows into this interview. It's really interesting. Alan is a prolific and very intelligent man who's been doing some really interesting stuff. Highly recommend you check out his show. And we got into some interesting territory with this, with this dual interview. So I hope you find it valuable. If you do, please find us on Crazy Wisdom on itunes, Spotify, Stitcher, any of those things. And if you like it, please find us. Give us a review. I'm also starting to blog@stuartalsop.substack.com really short, valuable insights that I'm getting from doing all these interviews and living my life. And hopefully they're value to you as well. Yeah, hope this is of interest and please let me know what you think. I'm releasing episodes every Monday and Friday and special content on the substack@stuartallsop.substack.com so all of the exclusive content there. So, yeah, great. Have a great day.